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mattybr5
28th April 2013, 14:18
Ok having seeing some serious cars in action over the week end and how fast some of the tracks are I'm looking down the dry sump set up route as a must now but having the svx eg33 engine in mine there not much option apart from the Dailey set ups which thanks to andy f is tried and tested kits.

These are excellent kits very well made and do exactly as they should but pricey I'v been in touch with them about a possible group buy for both eg33 6 cylinder engines and the ej20/25 pan and pump set ups

Iv not got prices or full details as yet but just seeing who would be interested and a feed back on people's thoughts so let's see who would be up for this ?thank you

C. J.
28th April 2013, 14:30
Would be interested to know price but dout I could afford

Shaky
28th April 2013, 14:34
I have one of these kits for the Ej20. Excellent quality

mattybr5
28th April 2013, 14:38
Il be getting prices for all they are pricey but well worth it considering they are such a vital part

Shaky I take it your pleased with them then?

Shaky
28th April 2013, 14:48
It's only been dry fitted at the moment but with the scavenge from the heads fitted as well as the main pump it will certainly be up to the job. The build quality is also very good and the support network from Dailey back in the US is excellent, very quick to answer emails and supply technical drawings/ photographs. I had mine sent over direct and it was certainly my cheapest option available at the time.

wrxbart
28th April 2013, 15:15
Maybe interested in a ej22 one dependant on price and funds.

xAv
28th April 2013, 15:33
also interested for a EJ25, depending price like you...

mattybr5
28th April 2013, 15:39
Cheers for that shaky sounds very good I'm 100% going for one now..likes cheaper than a new engine build without one :)

Rob I'm sure the ej22 would be the same setup as the ej20 so we get prices and see

Xav il be getting details ASAP I was offered $600 discount when I previous enquired about them for a single one so hopefully if we can get some numbers up we can get a good price for all fella il update soon a I have the details

Steven
28th April 2013, 15:45
From memory (enquired last year for Lee's car) the price isnt too dissimilar to the Zen dry sump price (pan and pump) for the 4 cylinder.

toffee
28th April 2013, 15:54
I believe Paul has his dry sump kits in stock again :( wish I had waited for his now, just my luck!!

Ren
28th April 2013, 17:46
Current batch of dry sumps are due in imminently, fyi.

Dan Lewis
28th April 2013, 18:17
Matt, would be interested in a price. In the same boat as CJ, i bet i cant afford it but would like to know what to aim for.
Does the EJ20 version have a scavange stage for the heads as well?

mattybr5
28th April 2013, 18:36
Not sure in the price of zen one but there not a option for me with the eg33 but I hear the price is good I'm sure Paul or ten will have more info on theses

Dan I'm sure they do use the head scavenger system also but all te info il get from bill inc prices for the different models etc

p1prodrive
28th April 2013, 18:43
Ref the EG33 why not get both quotes from Dailey and Zen and see what prices they come up with.

Andy.F
28th April 2013, 18:45
One of the key benefits of the Dailey dry sump is the head scavenging, in addition to a dedicated pressure section (not all dry sump systems have this) the pump also has 4 scavenge sections, pan front, pan rear, left head, right head. This leaves no hiding place for oil. Most other systems do not scavenge the heads and you can get up to 3-4 ltrs hiding in there which causes lost power due to drag. It can also cause oil foaming and results in high oil temperatures. There is often a need to overfill such systems with up to 8 ltrs of oil so you don't run dry.

The Dailey system will actually pull a vacuum on the crankcase, even at high rpm and full boost, this further reduces the oil in suspension in the crankcase, improving power. It also makes for a very 'clean' engine that has very low oil consumption, has no risk of blowing off breathers or weeping gaskets/seals.

One very pleased customer here :)

stuarted
28th April 2013, 18:49
I'm interested, 4 cylinder

mattybr5
28th April 2013, 22:06
Ryan not sure on Paul's thought but I don't think there a big enough market for him to be making a eg33 setup as of yet I may be mistaken

Andy cheers for the info and clarifying how good the Dailey system is I don't think there any better out there so we get the prices together and see who wants one

Stuart again soon as I have some prices il post them up for all models fella

Simon_
28th April 2013, 23:09
Have interest when budget allows

mattybr5
29th April 2013, 07:07
Ok Simon hopefully we can get a good discount mate iv had a message off bill his discount so all people's budget allows as mine has been stretched past its limits already:)

Fai17
30th April 2013, 08:02
Will be interested to hear how much for eg33 and ej20+

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 04:27
Ok guys me and bill have been exchanging messages all night and we have some details as followed

As all who are interested is going to know that a part of like this just doesn't fit and work there alot of other installations etc for it to work so bill has messaged me this in his own words for installation for all to read incase

just for the record here is my blanket statement on the installation.

this is not a simple plug and play system. You will have be qualified in
custom fabrication work to modify the motor. headers are one of the issues
with clearance across the front of the motor to my drive pulley setup.
there are 2 fittings on the pan that need to be connected to the valve
covers so
you will need to add -10 fittings to the valve covers. If you can deal with
this the rest is easy.

drive setup is a pulley to replace the idler pulley bolted to the water
pump. you either get a new bearing or remove the original and install it
into my pulley and bolt it back on the water pump. you will have to bore a
hole in the front cover for the pulley to stick thru.

Only other mod is to remove the stock oil pump gears from the front cover.

my kit is the engine portion. you will need to procure the car installation
components, tank, filters and plumbing.


make note on the 6 and not sure why. I did the system for someone over here who also sent one to the uk. on installation in the uk the pump had to be lowered with a spacer to make the belt tension correct. but on the one over here it did not. so the kit comes with the spacer. just keep that in mind down the road.


This in mind bill has offered us the following discounts

retail on the 6cylinder is 2335 and the 4cylinder is 2000 in today's exchange rate as an trade you would come in at 2000 for the 6 cylinder and 1710 shipping on each kit is 145 direct to you from bill this does not inc import taxes I suggest you have it sent to a home or private address I find your less likely to be charged and alot less hassle than a work place or garage in my past experience tho

Now bill has very kindly offered a excellent discount if we can get a total order of 5 orders of any mixed numbers of the 4cylinder or 6 cylinder versions if we can get these numbers so that's another 4 orders with my own order then he will do them at the following price

6 cylinder eg33 1875 + shipping
4 cylinder ej20/22/25 1600 + shipping


Hope you all find this information helpfully and the discounts very generous from bill any questions please ask il happily forward them on to bill thank yoj

Simon_
1st May 2013, 06:32
Having bought a number of bits from states never not getting customs duty it might be better to assume cost of vat and handling and get them all sent at the same time to one address?

Yes please 6 cyl

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 07:26
My self ordering alot of items from the states iv some times not got charged on items then other I have it's hard to predict if you will get charged or not and assuming we will or will not could cause issues

personally id like to get the items all shipped out to indervidual addresses that way if you do or don't get charged anything you can take care if it your self it's a simple method but il we see what others think also il put a list down so we can seethe interest


1-mattybr5 6cylinder
2-Simon 6cylinder
3-
4-
5-


Also I forgot to note this isn't capped to just 5 orders we can order more thats not a problem so please add your name and any thoughts and we work them out on here cheers

Andy.F
1st May 2013, 07:32
Thats excellent pricing :)

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 07:34
Putting your name down andy??thought you would have plans to put another matching engine in the rear if the car by now:)

stuarted
1st May 2013, 16:41
1-mattybr5 6cylinder
2-Simon 6cylinder
3- stuarted - 4 cylinder
4-
5-

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 17:52
Another order to the list here for me one more order for the very good discount rate:)


1-mattybr5 6cylinder
2-mattybr5 (anonymous)
3-Simon 6cylinder
4- stuarted - 4 cylinder
5-
*

Andy.F
1st May 2013, 18:15
Ooooh, who is anony mouse or should it be secret squirrel :D

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 18:36
You mean it's not you andy:) you had a early morning email also when you get 5 mins away from taking the micky:)

rb268
1st May 2013, 19:34
some pictures matt
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af312/123rankin/554B69B8-BC15-401D-991B-6FEEB931BF95-328-000001460DD0F918_zpsaeb1fee5.jpg (http://s1019.photobucket.com/user/123rankin/media/554B69B8-BC15-401D-991B-6FEEB931BF95-328-000001460DD0F918_zpsaeb1fee5.jpg.html)http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af312/123rankin/AAB13563-0BC6-47B1-ABD9-4B82917E3368-991-000001907307C7A0_zpsa4b3412d.jpg (http://s1019.photobucket.com/user/123rankin/media/AAB13563-0BC6-47B1-ABD9-4B82917E3368-991-000001907307C7A0_zpsa4b3412d.jpg.html)

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 20:04
Awesome Paul looks a great bit of kit mate I cannot wait to get mine now:)

PS-06
1st May 2013, 20:09
Blimey that's a good pricing Matty. I need it, but can I afford it now........

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 20:27
i know the feeling frank im prety much the same but i dont want to miss out on a good price and find out later on i need to change alot of parts to fit one of the most vital parts this should have been first on my shopping list :)

xAv
1st May 2013, 21:56
1-mattybr5 6cylinder
2-mattybr5 (anonymous)
3-Simon 6cylinder
4- stuarted - 4 cylinder
5- xAv - 4 cylinder
*

mattybr5
1st May 2013, 22:00
That's the magic number then fella can we just discuss what people would prefer for shipping I.e sending them together as one order or to separate address??also for anyone else this number isn't capped if you want a kit please add your name and any thoughts

xAv
2nd May 2013, 11:31
separate will better for me I think, also, the same for payment ?

stuarted
2nd May 2013, 12:11
Not too bothered about delivery, whatever is easiest for everyone. Payment direct to Dailey?

NVS-99
2nd May 2013, 12:51
Thats excellent pricing guys.

I run this system on my car and it is an amazing bit of gear. To have the confidence of no more oiling issues is very relieving.

I can highly recommend this kit and when i get around to building my EG33 I will be fitting this system.

As stated the header issue is a bit of a pain to deal with and I will attempt to find some pics of the modification we had to perform on my car to get it to clear.

Nev

mattybr5
2nd May 2013, 15:17
il be speaking to bill about payment mepersonally want to have them delivered directly to each customer from dailey direct xav your shipping will be higher if its going to france tho fella

Simon_
2nd May 2013, 19:08
Happy what ever suits :)

mattybr5
2nd May 2013, 19:11
All I'm thinking if there any import taxes then we can sort our own out and the shipping with insurance to cover these from one address for those's who cannot collect could get very costly and risky I find if bill is sending them direct they be covered by him and any issues he would have to sort it out that would be one huge stress I wouldn't want to have hanging over me if such a part got damaged or lost etc

Simon_
2nd May 2013, 19:13
No probs

xAv
3rd May 2013, 09:19
I follow, let me know !

Simon_
3rd May 2013, 09:32
Having made decision. I want asap lol. Whats the time frame looking like Matty?
I think dailey ships by air and takes a few days to arrive.

mattybr5
3rd May 2013, 10:13
Iv messaged bill about payment Simon and xav if you can pm me your full address il get a address from bill for you soon as we get the info we get them payed and shipped then so let's get tem ordered:)

Simon_
3rd May 2013, 10:25
Thanks

mattybr5
3rd May 2013, 16:54
Ok bill just messaged me he would want one payment for them and full details for every one inc contract numbers and full address he has three 4 cylinder kits on the shelf and one 6 cylinder kit all done so every one can get there kit apart from me and anonymous straight away which I'm ok with these will be a few weeks at most

So of people want to send me details etc and how they like to pay we get it sorted

Simon_
3rd May 2013, 16:57
Ace

mattybr5
3rd May 2013, 17:06
I was going to say he has my 6 cylinder on the shelf and yours will have to wait to see your reaction:)

Simon_
3rd May 2013, 17:30
Pmsl.

Oops just dropped your ecu :)

mattybr5
3rd May 2013, 17:45
touche:)

mattybr5
4th May 2013, 17:53
Can all people who are on the list pm me please regarding payments so we can get moving on this please this thank you

mattybr5
5th May 2013, 09:36
come on xav and stuart please message me or tell us your not interested as there members desprate to get this order going thank you

p1prodrive
5th May 2013, 17:33
So how much money is needed right now for the 6 cylinder ?

mattybr5
5th May 2013, 17:40
Bill has asked for 50% to get the order going straight away the ones bill has in stock I.e Simons if he wants to pay in full and get his order sent out straight away tho

p1prodrive
5th May 2013, 17:52
So as it stands EG33 6 cylinder is 1875 + 145 = 2020 delvered
And you need 1000 to get things going.. Hmmm

mattybr5
5th May 2013, 18:03
Pretty much hit the nail on the head I don't think your going to get this offer again to be honest:)

Matt R
5th May 2013, 18:15
Does sound like a very good price tbh. If I didn't have the zen set up I'd be on this too

mattybr5
5th May 2013, 18:21
Sell sell sell buy buy buy matt:)

Simon_
5th May 2013, 18:38
Pmsl

I am sure it was nearer 3500 when I was talking to him two years back. I wasnt confident the engine was going to work as it was early days at the time.

Simon

dbrad
5th May 2013, 18:55
Does sound like a very good price tbh. If I didn't have the zen set up I'd be on this too

Snap

mattybr5
5th May 2013, 19:36
As it stands were still 2 short for the group but with avx and Stuart not replying which is a shame hopefully some other members will step up to the plate and take one if these fantastic setups also :)

Andy.F
5th May 2013, 20:51
Stuart works offshore and doesn't have regular internet access so maybe need to give him a bit more time.

Alan Bell
5th May 2013, 20:57
As Andy says, >> Stuart told me he was IN the group buy, give him more time.

xAv
6th May 2013, 06:28
I've work hard all week end, arrived tonight and no time to go on 22B forum...

Has I've said on my first post on this tread, I'm ok for this, just tell me what to do exactly.

Thanks for the time you take for us.

regards
Xav

mattybr5
6th May 2013, 08:28
Ok well that's a result and cheers for the info Simon will be very pleased:) ok I presume we have the 5 still for the bumpers and 6 if p1 wants to jump on also if thoses who are going wants to pay full or 50% now pm's me it's completely up to them how they do it we get the ball rolling

mattybr5
6th May 2013, 10:43
Ok a updated list so far if payments :)


1-mattybr5 6cylinder -(payed full bank )
2-mattybr5 (anonymous) (payed in full bank)
3-Simon 6cylinder
4- stuarted - 4 cylinder (payed paypal full )
5-xav - 4 cylinder
*

xAv
6th May 2013, 11:27
Matty, PM just send, did you receive it ?
I'm not sure my Inbox working well...

mattybr5
6th May 2013, 12:01
Yes iv replied hopefully:)

Simon_
6th May 2013, 12:40
bank trans sent for total amount

mattybr5
6th May 2013, 12:45
1-mattybr5 6cylinder -(payed full bank )
2-mattybr5 (anonymous) (payed in full bank)
3-Simon 6cylinder (payed full amount bank)
4- stuarted - 4 cylinder (payed paypal full )
5-xav - 4 cylinder



Excellent Simon we was just about to start talking about you for holding us all up lol:) iv already messaged bill About final payment he still not replied hopefully he get back to us ASAP and we get this bad boy ordered:)

Simon_
6th May 2013, 12:47
pmsl

xAv
7th May 2013, 05:12
still waiting after the payment, is it Bill who will contact me ?

thanks

Simon_
7th May 2013, 06:13
Bill wants one payment so you need to pay Matt so he can pass if onto Bill

xAv
7th May 2013, 07:56
Thanks Simon but Matt didn't tell me that, maby because shipping charges will be more expensive for me, I wait after a Paypal adress for payment and the price I've to send.

Don't worry, if I engage in something, I do. (I don't like to be the last one and make lost your time...)

xav

mattybr5
7th May 2013, 08:07
There no confusion xav il be the one contacting you bill has the order for the other sumps now that's all sorted but he trying to get you a shipping price for yours so soon as he lets me know il let you know to finalise your payment but the rest are sorted

Iv also messaged bill regarding cleanable tanks as per Simon suggested so if anyone interested in these also we have a price in the mean time bill has offered replacement belts for the pump setup at $30 each im not sure how fast these wear out or how available they are over here so may be worth taking these but let me know what you think cheers

NVS-99
7th May 2013, 15:20
I have had my belt on for 18 months with
no issues.
But it's handy to carry a spare just in case ;)

Andy.F
7th May 2013, 18:05
You can get the belts in the UK no problem (9.00)

Andy.F
7th May 2013, 18:09
AH Fabrications will do a suitable dry sump tank for 290, not sure how that compares to the ones from the states.

mattybr5
7th May 2013, 18:32
Cheers for the info nvs and andy there handy to know :)


This is a message from bill about various different offers I'm not sure if there any good or costly you let me know:)


oil tanks and related I can get from Peterson. so take a look and see what part numbers you want. Here is a shopping list I suggest from Peterson. I can offer these up at my cost. I get a pretty good price.
oil tank 08-0005 $370 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_stand.html
tank clamp 08-0100 $70 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_acc.html
catch tank 08-0004 $130 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_acc.html
scavenge filter 09-0439 $120 http://petersonfluidsys.com/filter_400.html this goes between the scavenge pump outlet and the oil tank inlet. you still need a spin on type filter to protect the motor as well. this just keeps the crap that comes out of the motor from poluting the tank. which in turn keeps the pressure pump clean. its a removeable stainless element that you can clean.
vacuum regulator 08-0455 $130 http://petersonfluidsys.com/engine_breath.html the pump will pull well above 14" of vacuum in the crankcase. so I suggest this so you can set the vacuum level at about 14"

about $810 my cost with shipping to me. would need to add a 4 fittings for the tank $60 and shipping cost to you as well.

Dont expect to get these parts quickly from Peterson. allow 3-4 weeks delivery.

Or you can try and source them there.

NVS-99
8th May 2013, 23:28
Ok so as I said earlier here is a little bit of a guide of what you will need to do the headers to get clearance.
Firstly on the left bank of the headers just after it bends to come across the bottom of the engine you will need to cut and rotate the pipes forward to clear the pump.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/98wrexi/NVS-99/IMG_0432.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/98wrexi/media/NVS-99/IMG_0432.jpg.html)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/98wrexi/NVS-99/IMG_0433.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/98wrexi/media/NVS-99/IMG_0433.jpg.html)
Also as they cross over right bank the pipes need to be extended where they come over the right hand side just before the collector.
Another thing we have done is to extend the slip joint as we did have issues with it coming apart under high boost loads. normally they only join by about 50mm so we extended it to 100mm and strengthened the brackets.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/98wrexi/NVS-99/IMG_0434.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/98wrexi/media/NVS-99/IMG_0434.jpg.html)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/98wrexi/NVS-99/IMG_0451.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/98wrexi/media/NVS-99/IMG_0451.jpg.html)

As for plumbing I chose to use the Icore hoses and Brown & Miller fittings http://www.bmrs.net/ they are located in the UK so you guys will have easy access to it.
The best thing about their product is it is light, the easiest to get tight turns out of without loosing inside diameter, is excellent in wall strength and wont seep fuel vapous like some of the more well known brands. I ended up doing all my fuel lines and oil lines in this and I will warn you its not cheap but what is an engine worth ??

This is one of the best things I have done as now I have the confidence to push hard and not be concerned with oil surge. A must when running big tyres. I am running Hankook Z221's in 295/30/18's on my GC8.

Hope this helps guys.
Nev

Simon_
9th May 2013, 19:27
Very nice Nev

Simon_
9th May 2013, 19:30
Cheers for the info nvs and andy there handy to know :)


This is a message from bill about various different offers I'm not sure if there any good or costly you let me know:)


oil tanks and related I can get from Peterson. so take a look and see what part numbers you want. Here is a shopping list I suggest from Peterson. I can offer these up at my cost. I get a pretty good price.
oil tank 08-0005 $370 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_stand.html
tank clamp 08-0100 $70 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_acc.html
catch tank 08-0004 $130 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_acc.html
scavenge filter 09-0439 $120 http://petersonfluidsys.com/filter_400.html this goes between the scavenge pump outlet and the oil tank inlet. you still need a spin on type filter to protect the motor as well. this just keeps the crap that comes out of the motor from poluting the tank. which in turn keeps the pressure pump clean. its a removeable stainless element that you can clean.
vacuum regulator 08-0455 $130 http://petersonfluidsys.com/engine_breath.html the pump will pull well above 14" of vacuum in the crankcase. so I suggest this so you can set the vacuum level at about 14"

about $810 my cost with shipping to me. would need to add a 4 fittings for the tank $60 and shipping cost to you as well.

Dont expect to get these parts quickly from Peterson. allow 3-4 weeks delivery.

Or you can try and source them there.
Thanks for talking with Bill regarding tanks etc

I would have gone for it but I cant wait 4weeks :(
Once I have tank I can sort mounting it and sorting line (or get someone else too dependjng kn time frame) so delaying four weeks would be too much.

Simon

mattybr5
9th May 2013, 19:53
Very nice and helpful info nvs looks a very nice engine you have there:)

Simon I got your tx iv asked bill for this info I'm hopeing he can get your sump out this week so hopefully they wont take it to lkng to arrive from our talks and no problems with te tanks iv gone for the set up but I have all the time in the world:)

Simon_
9th May 2013, 19:57
Still very tempted but engine is now sat waiting on sump plate etc and I have driven it for too long lol
So if I buy a tank, remote filter, oil cooler etc then next week it can start to come together

Simon_
9th May 2013, 21:22
catch tank 08-0004 $130 http://petersonfluidsys.com/tank_acc.html

serial number seems wrong?

mattybr5
10th May 2013, 06:32
It must be a typo hopefully:) have you priced up all the other parts you need over here Simon??it be interesting to see how much they are..also I'm fast running out of room under the bonnet and for the drag spec series it cannot be in the drivers compartment so it looks like the boot for my tank..have you given thought to where your is all going??

Simon_
10th May 2013, 06:48
Cant find a vac regulator at the moment.

Behind passenger seat and will box in if required

Andy.F
10th May 2013, 08:49
You need to watch how long your oil suction line is to avoild pressure drop/cavitation at pump suction, thats the reason most installs have the tank underbonnet or passenger front footwell.

Simon_
10th May 2013, 08:54
Foot well is another consideration but was trying to shift weight back a bit

NVS-99
10th May 2013, 13:02
Mine is in the boot and we don't have any
issues with pressure etc ;)

Andy.F
10th May 2013, 13:17
Do you get many really cold days when the oil is very viscous over there :eek:

mattybr5
10th May 2013, 15:14
Looking at my car the tank is gonna have to be bonnet or roof mounted Iv just not got the room anywhere..my boot is still looking the most likely place if I cannot fit it under the bonnet with a Tank heater in place for pre heating and those cold days we sometimes have :)

Simon_
11th May 2013, 18:54
just thought I would put my planned tank and stuff up on here for help to others and so people can also give opinion on better etc before sorting it

considered this tank for a while
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Gallon-Aluminum-Dry-Sump-Tank-Twin-Return-/181133375256?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a2c63f718
but I dont think it considers separating the air from the oil so dismissed it

this AH Fabrictions one seems very good and cleanable but only 1.5gallons and Bill recommended two.
http://www.ahfabrications.com/product_info.php?cPath=19_6&products_id=193&osCsid=g2rrg05lgvh0fv1odm5qn053n6

Andy F mentioned his cost 290 and he confirmed the part number via txt yesterday (thanks Andy).
http://www.ahfabrications.com/product_info.php?cPath=19_6&products_id=111&osCsid=g2rrg05lgvh0fv1odm5qn053n6
probably going to go with that one as its working well on Andy's car, if I have a failure and need to clean it.. cut the top off, clean and reweld

I have a catch tank from a nascar dry sump setup that I have had for a while to planning to use that.

I am planning to use the ecu to control the vacuum...

Just need to sort oil cooler and filter - considering using oe filter location.... low point in engine bay so less mess when changing filter.

Simon

mattybr5
11th May 2013, 21:49
Wow cleanable tank is a expensive bit if kit they do look nice from ah tho and the non cleanable how often do you need to clean them??

I need to do some readying up on these system as the filters I was under the understanding you have a inline one from the tank feed and utilise the standard filter also?

The catch tank set up I'm not sure how this change from a usual set up or are they any andy different I take it it's a used a return and a vent regulator for the crank case pressure??

As for the oil cooler I was under the impression that the problem is getting best into the oil so a cooler isn't needed but more like a oil heater or or heat regulator

I'm in at the deep end with this having not done any dry sumps before any advise would be a help guys il be also be getting info off bill one installing I think I'm going to need it:)

NVS-99
13th May 2013, 01:40
Matt it can be very overwhelming when you start doing this sort of improvement as it isnt a coomon mod that everyone has done.

What we have learnt from a few guys that have done dry sump set ups is that the Peterson stuff albeit more expensive is definately the best gear available. And the reality is that if you only have to spend the money once then do it right.

My set up runs an oli cooler for no other reason than to help remove aeration from the system after exiting the engine on the return.
My system has a Peterson in line filter on the suction line from the tank ( boot mounted ) before the pump. After exiting the pump the oil goes through the remote oil filter into the oil cooler and then returns to the tank.
The other thing that takes a little getting used to is the oil level. I run my level at about 1/2" under the aeration plate in the tank. My system runs approx 8L of oil.
To check your level run the car and have everything up to temp them shut the car off and dip a piece of wire in and see where it is sitting.

We made up a wire level dipstick before fitting the tank so we knew what level would be correct

Hope this helps. If you need any more info let me know ;)

NVS-99
13th May 2013, 01:44
Do you get many really cold days when the oil is very viscous over there :eek:

Andy I am sure that I have seen temps as low as 10deg C on a really cold winters day here :)

But seriuosly we do get cold days here although not as cold as you guys. The oil warms up pretty quickly once you start the car and run it. We always aim for at least 60deg C before driving the car at any real pace.

mattybr5
14th May 2013, 16:42
Cheers for the info nvs it's all very handy stuff I'm certainly going to need help with this I think:)


A quick update for thoses who are involved all sumps have been sent now and bill is sending me the tracking details il update you as we have them they won't take very long to arrive at all and as a added bonus we all have a spare belt in each kit for free courtesy if bill :)

Simon_
14th May 2013, 17:30
Ace

mattybr5
15th May 2013, 16:53
Update for all sumps are due for delivery Friday by the looks iv sent all parties involved tracking details thank you

xAv
16th May 2013, 20:19
received yesterday with big taxes...

Pach
packaging perfect, thanks a lot Matt for your job

xav

itec
23rd June 2013, 01:07
Are these still available? eg33 type

p1prodrive
23rd June 2013, 07:50
Are these still available? eg33 type

You have missed out I'm afraid this went around quick.

However Bill will give you a price but he also mention that Matt is again a distributor for these.

mattybr5
23rd June 2013, 08:43
I can get you a price on them they wouldn't be as cheap as they was with the first group but unless we get the same 5 figures again so if anyone is interested in them 6 cylinders and 4 cylinders il be happy to help out pop your names down if interested