View Full Version : Nurburgring - *Easter Trip '05*

7th March 2005, 21:29
Depart Folkestone on Thursday 24 March 2005 at 06:26

Return Calais/Coquelles on Monday 28 March 2005 at 23:58

Friday & Monday are bank Holiday's

1) NeVeTaS
2) Pavlo

[ 14. March 2005, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: NeVeTaS ]

9th March 2005, 09:31
Pavlo, I'm still going out there on the orig dates (24th - 28th March)

Although I'm now taking the g/f shopping rather than going to the ring. :D :D :D

HOWEVER, I've heard that it's now RAINING at the ring, the snow is melted, and I'm pretty sure it's going to be open.

So leave your tickets as they are, come over with me. I'll take you to the ring, then take the mrs shopping then meet you back at the ring.

Let me know if you fancy that.

11th March 2005, 13:55
Could well be up for the may visit, booked to go 1st 4th april, depending on weather between now and then. How you finding the M3? had mine for over a year now and love it, its great round the ring.

13th March 2005, 10:27
Still getting used it really need to get to Germany to give it a real test :D :D

Paul, weather is warming up nicely, do you still fancy going next week? If so I'll rebook the hotel.

13th March 2005, 23:04
I was thinking that.

I haven't made any firm plans, would like to get away really.


14th March 2005, 07:50
Yep me too.

Even if the ring is closed, 160mph on unrestricted motorway should keep us busy for a few hours ;)

However I'm sure the ring will be open.

Will you be coming alone or with somebody else?

See you next week.

14th March 2005, 09:40
assuming I can change to a twin room, I may try and find a willing passenger.


14th March 2005, 13:59
Ive never stayed or been to Koblenz, is it ok? Its about 25km away? Is that right?
Ive thought about staying somewhere else although i enjoy staying at eddies, not so much at the Zurburg. Looks like well be ok for 1st-4th april, cant wait.

15th March 2005, 09:52

Looking good!!


15th March 2005, 09:53
Originally posted by Pavlo:
assuming I can change to a twin room, I may try and find a willing passenger.

Paul Hi Paul,

Just called the hotel and have booked you a twin room.

Where abouts do you live? Shall we meet up at some services on the way down to Folkestone Thursday morning, we need to check in at 05:56


16th March 2005, 19:57
Calling Pavlo...

Bring your shorts Germany is El Scorchio! :cool: ;)

16th March 2005, 20:09
I need to check my gearbox, it may have a dodgy bearing on the front diff or something silly. Which will really annoy me!


16th March 2005, 20:12
:eek: not good!

OK keep me posted otherwise I'll get charged for the room ;)

It's looking good over there, can't wait to get out there!! :cool:

17th March 2005, 23:55
Not long to go now!!! http://www.esoftpro.com/demo/EGuestPRO/emoticon/61.gif

19th March 2005, 10:59
A Nice 19C forecast for Friday!

Best bring the sun cream lotion! :D :D

20th March 2005, 06:52
tongue.gif tongue.gif

22nd March 2005, 03:15
See you all Thursday tongue.gif

26th March 2005, 20:56
Having Great fun. Paul had a bit of an off, but should have the car back on the road tomorrow. Rather pricey armco bill though!

Can be contacted if needed on +49 (0)1520 499 5151

27th March 2005, 10:25

27th March 2005, 10:27

glad to hear no 'serious' problems.

27th March 2005, 10:44
Go on then, how much to repair the armco..

Arm, leg and left testicle???


27th March 2005, 11:52

Armco bill will be very :eek: too :(

29th March 2005, 08:07
Armco bill was 2,300 Euro's :eek:

Andrew Carr
29th March 2005, 08:19
Ouch :(

Still as long as noone was hurt.

29th March 2005, 09:04


29th March 2005, 09:06

29th March 2005, 09:11
Oh dear!

29th March 2005, 09:16
You can't beat beer drinking repair sessions where all the locals join into help :cool:


29th March 2005, 09:21
the car drove home under it's own steam then?


29th March 2005, 09:24
We drove 600km round trip to brussels and got a new cambelt pully.

Then used Radseal on the radiator, and masking tape on the body.

Bit of T Cut and good as new.

29th March 2005, 09:24
Originally posted by AndrewC:
Is that Mr Felstead crouched down next to Paul? Yeah was John Felstead, Paul and myself that went.

Andrew Carr
29th March 2005, 09:24
Is that Mr Felstead crouched down next to Paul?

29th March 2005, 09:27
hope its not too bad. smile.gif

29th March 2005, 09:28
one would hope for 2300euro the damage was lots to the armco??

At least no one hurt which is the main thing...

Can Paul blame Johns tuition smile.gif ;) :D

29th March 2005, 09:30
36 metres of Armco, post's etc

There was also another 200 Euro's on top of that for Recovery Charge.

Was a rather expensive weekend for Paul, but great fun though. The Ring is a crazy old place!

29th March 2005, 09:32
36metres!! surprized the car looks as undamaged as it does..

29th March 2005, 09:35
Yeah that was a piss take though will let Paul explain that one better but it was a stitch up.

29th March 2005, 10:19
'kin mega weekend, we all learnt a lot, even Mr Felstead!

I was stitched up over the Armco, but essentially everyone gets the same treatment. I actually made contact with one since 4m piece, but because 9 pieces had moved in some way (where posts had moved) they charged me for the whole lot!

Car is okay, needs a new bumper (would probably fill out) and bumper bar, and a few more tweaks to the rad mount cross member.

I will do a write up later, as I have a huge number of people to thank, not least Nevetas and John!


Andrew Carr
29th March 2005, 10:39
Originally posted by Pavlo:
I was stitched up over the Armco, but essentially everyone gets the same treatment. I actually made contact with one since 4m piece, but because 9 pieces had moved in some way (where posts had moved) they charged me for the whole lot!
Could you not have negotiated to have "Gefördert worden durch Zen Performance" painted on each replaced section?


29th March 2005, 10:45
I very nearly asked for delivery options for the Armco I had purchased.

29th March 2005, 12:13
What would happen if you refused to pay ??

29th March 2005, 12:56
There was a local lad in the office with me, and when I was initially arguing about paying for 36 *pieces* of armco, he basically gave me right advice; pay up. If you don't pay, or want to dispute the ammount, they get the Police out to inspect the scene, for which they charge you, they stop the track, for which they charge you, they send a safety car, for which they charge you. Then the police agree with the ring officials and you have to pay the original sum, plus all the extras you just incurred.

If you still don't pay, they Police take a very dim view.


29th March 2005, 13:29
I always wanted to take the scoob at some point to the ring. This has put me off.

Especially seen as when I bought GT4 and went straight onto the ring circuit and bounced off the barriers all the way round :D

29th March 2005, 13:35
I still went back on track and went much faster (although not through Matzenback!) than before. And I will go again, don't let this put you off, just learn from my experience.


29th March 2005, 13:52
Sounded like you had an expensive but enjoyable weekend smile.gif

29th March 2005, 13:54
time to test out the insurance

29th March 2005, 14:17
r u gonna try and claim back the armco costs off the insurance co?

29th March 2005, 14:39

Rob G
29th March 2005, 14:41
Paul, dropped you an email 2 cd....

Failing that can you call me on my mob please mate


29th March 2005, 14:59
Normal car insurance, or track insurance specifically for the trip ?

29th March 2005, 15:17
normal car insurance, the ring is a public access toll road, on which normal road traffic law applies.

Andy McCord
29th March 2005, 15:47
Do they have marshalls all round the road or not?

I was just wondering in respect to what would happen if you just simply skimmed an armco & just drove on?

29th March 2005, 16:09
Wont that hurt your no claims bonus ?

In many cases, Ive often thought it rather pointless to claim off insurance due the extortionate premiums, and the thought of losing full no claims ( unprotected, again due to cost )

29th March 2005, 16:50
Thanks for a great fun and very eventful ring trip Paul and Steve, i am a bit on the knackered side today so will do a write up later. :D Thanks for the oportunity to experience proper power there, it's good fun watching a GT3 disapear in the mirrors up a steep hill. tongue.gif :D

29th March 2005, 17:17
It will probably hurt the no claims bonus, but mine is protected, and I can live with a hit on the insurance to do the claim.


29th March 2005, 21:45
A few pics from the weekend.


29th March 2005, 22:06
It's funny, but the lack of side skirts and finishers on the rear bumper, combined with the taller profile tyres make your car look like it's up on stilts Paul ;)

30th March 2005, 07:12
Cool Pics :cool:

Andrew Carr
30th March 2005, 07:24
Very nice pics - I actually prefer the look of the car without skirts, so much so that I tore mine off at Oulton Park last November ;)

30th March 2005, 07:50
The car is sat quite high, we raised it about 8mm for the ring. With smaller diameter wheels and slightly lower ride height I think it could come down about 15mm safely. But yes the lack of skirts and rear bumper trims make it look high.


30th March 2005, 07:53
Originally posted by Slooby:
It's funny, but the lack of side skirts and finishers on the rear bumper, combined with the taller profile tyres make your car look like it's up on stilts Paul ;) Are they higher profile tyres? with the lack of side skirts it is difficult to tell.. lol
Thinking they are 215/40/17 like I run on the same rim??? interested to know how you get on if they are 225/45/17 (of similar) as might run a set myself next.


30th March 2005, 07:59
They are 225/45/17 RE040 on STI8 rims (basically they are the standard STI8 wheels/tyres)


30th March 2005, 08:08
..and no clearance problems, obviously smile.gif

30th March 2005, 08:17
Arch liners at the front might say otherwise simon! And I had to back off the camber at the rear to stop the tyres touching the Leda coilovers! The rims are 7.5" wide, but have decreased offset meaning all the extra 0.5" appears on the inside.

I will fettle the rear arches and put some 3mm spacers on, so I can run a little more camber.


30th March 2005, 08:19
Okay thanks, I'll stick to the 215/40/17 then.. a little more rim sticks out over the tyre than I would like, in the last 18months a couple of kerbs have marked one of the rims.. nothing major though, and obviously wider tyres might help grip but it has plenty on 215.

30th March 2005, 23:15
First ever pic of me on track! :eek:


31st March 2005, 10:20

31st March 2005, 10:24
Originally posted by johnfelstead:
i am a bit on the knackered side today so will do a write up later. ping! ;)

31st March 2005, 10:32
i will when i get a moment. ;) i've been building a bedroom since i got back so still knackered. :D

31st March 2005, 10:40

31st March 2005, 11:44
Good luck with the claim. This scares the crap out of me TBH. My policy doesn't specifically eclude the Ring but I really don't want to test it.

Impressive to pull away from GT3's, I'd like to see that. :D


31st March 2005, 12:05
Insurance feedback seems positive so far. So far they have not turned their nose up at the traffic control barrier repair bill.

31st March 2005, 12:07
lol.. lucky the recipt didn't something more Racey!

31st March 2005, 12:09
Well, they haven't physically seen the invoice yet! They would have to pull quite a stunt to get out of covering it, as they seem obliged to from what i have read with the policy.

Andrew Carr
31st March 2005, 14:49
Excellent, use them again on the next trip, but this time ask in the 'ring office if any bits of barrier need replacing and offer to oblige in exchange for free laps ;)